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Foul or not ??
Hullboy
Hi guys , just a query really , i'm still getting my head round a few a the more obscure rules

1 , Mid game my opponent fouls , i move the cue ball into baulk & line up a ball , as i get down to play it i realise it not quite lined up as i want it , i place the shaft of my cue on the cue ball & move it to where i want it .
Now my query is , the cue ball can be moved by my hand as many times as i want ( within 60 secs , if on the clock ) as the cue ball is ball in hand until struck by my tip , but is it a foul if i'm moving the cue ball with my cue shaft ???

2, My opponent has fouled & i ask for the cue ball . Instead of passing me the cue ball he rolls it down the table toward baulk , it ends up going down a pocket but i catch it as it enters the pockets . Is this still considered loss of frame ???

These scenarios may never develope but if they do i want to be armed with a definitive answer

Thanks Wink
 
Mus
1. Used to be, but not anymore.
2. No, as ball is not in play after he touches it to pass it back.
 
Hullboy
Another scenario i see quite a lot , even pro's doing this .
A player pots the 8 ball , cue ball is travelling around the table , never likely to go in off , while the white is still moving they pick the cue ball up & places it in baulk ready for break off

Now i think i know the answer , it is a foul & loss of frame , but i've seen it so many times without players or ref's calling it ???
 
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